Sorin81 wrote: I'm also not opposed to paying for a one time upgrade per planeswalker.
madwren wrote: I think it's planned obsolescence.
MTG_Mage wrote: Thats a good idea, but I dont think they will buff the original 5 to the same power level as the newer PWs. I have looked closely at PW balance (viewtopic.php?f=31&t=58286) and think that what your asking is a bit much
MTG_Mage wrote: The idea of a one time cost to buff the original 5 would work as long as it is a small cost. PW costs have been normalized to 295 crystals for a premium mono color and 650 for a dual, so as long as the initial cost and buff totals no more than 150 then it would work.
MTG_Mage wrote: Sorin81 wrote: I'm also not opposed to paying for a one time upgrade per planeswalker. Thats a good idea, but I dont think they will buff the original 5 to the same power level as the newer PWs. I have looked closely at PW balance (viewtopic.php?f=31&t=58286) and think that what your asking is a bit much, especially considering madwren wrote: I think it's planned obsolescence. However, this is not fair to new players trying out the game who enter QB and get smoked.
AngelForge wrote: Here's my suggestion:viewtopic.php?f=36&t=56682 Being a little bit autistic, I posted it in the suggestion forum...
madwren wrote: That being said, while they're clearly behind the power curve, I disagree with Sorin81 that they're not competitive. - words- However, when it comes to PVE Events like Revolt Against the Consulate or Oath of the Gatewatch, the limitations of the origins planeswalkers becomes very evident, because they struggle to compete with the sheer speed and power of these arbitrarily-constructed decks. Playing with the origins planeswalkers becomes akin to trying to turn a cruise ship.
Sorin81 wrote: madwren wrote: That being said, while they're clearly behind the power curve, I disagree with Sorin81 that they're not competitive. - words- However, when it comes to PVE Events like Revolt Against the Consulate or Oath of the Gatewatch, the limitations of the origins planeswalkers becomes very evident, because they struggle to compete with the sheer speed and power of these arbitrarily-constructed decks. Playing with the origins planeswalkers becomes akin to trying to turn a cruise ship. This is my point. I'm not saying they aren't competative but that they are falling behind and need a boost, especially to mana gains, in order to stay competative.
buscemi wrote: P.S. I'm playing Jace 1 again in RatC because I hate rebuilding decks for other planeswalkers and Baral makes anyone blue into a playable option
Astralwind wrote: Going by OP's suggestion for Nissa, she would become too overpowered.
GregDreher wrote: Liliana creates interesting play options with her discard ability, but her ultimate should synergize with that ability by allowing any creatures in your graveyard to be returned. She could also use a better second ability.